Mailbag 28: Turn T Tomino

Posted August 17, 2006

So what does Turn A mean? And isn't Turn X still an X? Read on for the shocking, Earth-shattering answer.

Kira Lee asks:
1. Is it simply an attempt to get people to buy the model kits in Gundam SEED DESTINY that they featured a lot of the mecha that have only one-time appearances such as Heine Westenfluss's custom ZAKU Phantom, the "Live Concert Version" ZAKU Warrior and Andy Waltfeld's custom Gaia Gundam?

2. If the Zeon managed to have enough time and resources to build and send into action such things like all of their refitted battleships and new mobile suits like the Gelgoogs and more powerful mobile armors like Val Varo, do you think the Zeon could have stood a better chance even against the superior numbers of the Federation's forces at the battle of A Baoa Qu?

3. Even if the Zeon managed to win the battle of A Baoa Qu, do you think they would still have a fighting chance to continue the One Year War against the Earth Federation?

4. This is apparent throughout the second Universal Century, how is it possible that the Earth Federation is steadily declining as a significant power and slipping into stagnation?

5. Even though Turn A Gundam is successful as an original Gundam story, why was it considered a marketing failure? Is it simply because of its unappealing mecha designs?

6. What do you think was the main problem about Gundam Wing and Gundam SEED that prevented them from being as great as a series as Mobile Suit Gundam and Zeta Gundam?

Chris responds:
1. Absolutely. Bandai is always looking to get the most bang out of their plamo buck that they can. This is why they constantly release slightly different versions of models just to cash in. As a recent example, look at the MG Ball Shark Mouth version. It's no different than the previous MG Ball, but adding that Shark Mouth sticker magically makes it the MS IGLOO version. This carries over into DESTINY with one-shot appearances by minor variations that can later be turned into kits.

2. I don't know why, but people seem to enjoy asking all these "What Ifs" about Zeon during the One Year War. If you want to do these, go play Gihren's Greed. Anyway, by this point in the war, nothing could have helped the Zeon. Lack of pilots, factional leadership, and a re-moralized Federation spell doom for the Zeon war effort anyway you look at it.

3. Ok, let's say somehow they HAD won the battle. They lost the resources of Odessa, lost Solomon and lost Granada. Unless they wanted the fighting to spill into Side 3 and hit civilian colonies, stretching out the war after A Baoa Qu wouldn't accomplish anything - it would only delay defeat.

4. You could say the Earth Federation began stagnating after the One Year War. It was the most devastating war in UC history, and they never really fully recover from it. The Federation is filled with incompetent, corrupt politicians who are anti-Spacenoid. Broken governments cannot support themselves - look at the Roman Empire or any other government in history that has collapsed.

5. The mecha designs would definitely be a part of it. Look at it this way- Endless Waltz, a 3 episode OVA, had more model kits than Turn A, a 50 episode series. Also, Turn A is probably the most character-focused of Gundam TV shows, so it lacks the high level of action found in other series.

6. You have to look at this from a historical perspective. Gundam broke the mold and set the path for the real robot genre. Zeta Gundam similarly broke the mold for what a sequel series could do to stand out from the original, and it also created the formula that many Gundam shows follow. Gundam Wing and Gundam SEED follow the formulas laid down before them rather than breaking any new ground. That's not to say they don't have appeal, but it certainly sets them apart from the original series and Zeta.


EZero8 asks:
1. What happened to Kai Shiden after Zeta? Its been a long time since I had seen it, so I can't remember if he appeared in ZZ either.

2. In one of the Evolve shorts, we see the GP03 in action before the events in 0083 and was damaged. How long ago did this take place before Operation Stardust?

3. In CCA, there is a scene where Amuro and Chan share a romantic moment. I find this funny, as there has been rumors that Amuro was married to Beltorchika at the time. So was Amuro, in a way, having an affair and unintentionally mocking Char as he was believed to be interested in Quess while dating Nanai?

Chris responds:
1. Kai isn't seen again after Zeta. After his initial appearances early on, he had a silent cameo when Char gave his speech at Dakar. After that, he's never seen again. It's safe to assume that he just continued being a freelance journalist.

2. UPDATE: According to the Universal Century timeline on Ultimate Mark, Gundam Evolve 4 takes place on November 1, UC 0083. That would place it between episodes 5-6 of Gundam 0083.

3. The rumors are completely wrong. In Tomino's novelization Beltorchika's Children, Amuro was involved with her and she was pregnant, but they weren't married. Chan Agi doesn't exist in that version, and likewise Beltorchika isn't in the movie. In essence, one is standing in for the other, but there's no connection and no philandering on Amuro's part.


DLin900953 asks:
1. In Gundam when Dozle gets out of the Big Zam and starts shooting a rifle at the Gundam, what is the white ghost with red eyes behind him?

2. In the game Gundam: Encounters in Space there is a story you can play which is about the 16th Autonomous Corps, their ship the Thoroughbred, and Gundam units RX-78-4 and RX-78-5. Is there a movie or manga to this side story or was it created just for the game? I wanted to know because there is a preview between each level but not in-game graphics they are in cartoon. 

3. When do Char and Lalah meet; I must have missed an episode? 

4. Is there ever a reason why the Big Zam wasn't mass produced? As hard as it was for the Federation (namely Amuro and Sleggar) to take down you think they would make more since they are so strong. Were the plans for it stolen or do they even mention why in Gundam?

Chris responds:
1. The strange apparition is a visualization of the hatred that Amuro senses coming from Dozle. Nothing fancy there.

2. Both those Gundams and the Thoroughbred appear in the manga side story From Place Beyond the Blaze. Yes, that really is the title, and no, it isn't available in English.

3. You didn't miss anything because their meeting happens off screen.

4. The Big Zam doesn't get mass produced for several reason. Mainly, by the time the prototype sees action, the war is nearly over and the Zeon don't have the resources to mass produce it. Second, even though it's powerful, it's not invincible. As shown by Amuro, any mobile suit pilot that gets within close range nullifies the advantage of the I-field.


Sang Gyu Lee asks:
1. In Turn A Gundam, is there a symbolism behind the signs "Turn A" or "Turn X"? Is there a connotation behind its name, and what kind of connection is there to the Dark History? Also, what is Tomino trying to say through these symbols?

2. Same question as number 1, with "Z" for Zeta Gundam.

3. I finally saw Char's Counterattack which is indeed a great epic. But
one thing bothers me. I do not understand the mark "T" at the end. At the
premiere in the Anime Expo, Tomino said the audience should figure out for themselves what it means, and he gives simple answers like "I do not want to use the cross, so I decided to use the T which is also my initial." What is your interpretation of this mark, and what are others' interpretation of it? (I know the mark has a lot of connotation)

Chris responds:
1. The upside down A is a universal quantifier that means "given any" or "for all." If you want to say that there's a connection between the series, reading the title as ∀ Gundam could mean "For all Gundams." As for Turn X, that means nothing because an upside down X is still an X (as pointed out in the series by Sochie Heim). As for connections to the Dark History or what Tomino is trying to say through those symbols, that's up to the viewer to decide.

2. There's no special meaning to "Zeta." It's the sixth letter of the Greek alphabet (whereas "Z" is the last letter in the English alphabet).

3. Literally, the "T" symbol is just the psycoframe sample that October gave to Chan at Anaheim. As for what Tomino or others think it means, that's anybody's guess. It could signify the themes of the movie, that people can understand each other, that there's hope for the world, whatever. There's plenty of things in Tomino works that aren't neatly explained and left open for the viewer to think on, and this would certainly be one of those cases.


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